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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Data-Driven&#8221; Versus &#8220;Data-Informed&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Module 8 Reflection &#124; Reflections on Teaching</title>
		<link>http://larryferlazzo.edublogs.org/2009/08/26/data-driven-versus-data-informed/comment-page-1/#comment-16266</link>
		<dc:creator>Module 8 Reflection &#124; Reflections on Teaching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 02:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comes from a fellow local teacher, Larry Ferlazzo, and I think it’s a good way to treat the data (“Data-Driven” Versus “Data-Informed” &#124; Larry Ferlazzo&#8217;s Websites of the Day&#8230;). You shouldn’t ignore the data, but you also need to pay attention to the kid(s) in front of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] comes from a fellow local teacher, Larry Ferlazzo, and I think it’s a good way to treat the data (“Data-Driven” Versus “Data-Informed” | Larry Ferlazzo&#8217;s Websites of the Day&#8230;). You shouldn’t ignore the data, but you also need to pay attention to the kid(s) in front of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gamal Sherif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gamal Sherif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,

Your post brings up important distinctions in how we view learning.  There&#039;s been a relentless push for standardized data ever since A Nation At Risk, as if standardized tests alone can tell what&#039;s important about students.

It&#039;s also good to know that &quot;data&quot; can be many things such as evidence of problem solving, inquiry and collaboration --- and a disposition towards life-long learning.

My school is also looking at the tension between skills-based assessment and &quot;skills-driven&quot; assessment.  And of course we have to ask what&#039;s more of a priority: 1)  Effective paragraph transitions, or 2)  A love of reading and writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>Your post brings up important distinctions in how we view learning.  There&#8217;s been a relentless push for standardized data ever since A Nation At Risk, as if standardized tests alone can tell what&#8217;s important about students.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also good to know that &#8220;data&#8221; can be many things such as evidence of problem solving, inquiry and collaboration &#8212; and a disposition towards life-long learning.</p>
<p>My school is also looking at the tension between skills-based assessment and &#8220;skills-driven&#8221; assessment.  And of course we have to ask what&#8217;s more of a priority: 1)  Effective paragraph transitions, or 2)  A love of reading and writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the data gives you information, but the efficacy of that data may be limited.   If students are taking a multiple choice test that they know is solely for administrative purposes ( i.e. not part of their grade ) they may not take it seriously.

Also, on multiple choice tests you never really know what went through their brains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the data gives you information, but the efficacy of that data may be limited.   If students are taking a multiple choice test that they know is solely for administrative purposes ( i.e. not part of their grade ) they may not take it seriously.</p>
<p>Also, on multiple choice tests you never really know what went through their brains.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent observations Larry. This isn&#039;t only a problem in schools, but in business, government and I suspect countless other organizations. Too many times I see professors and business leaders stick their heads in charts and data and in turn say &quot;this is what the chart says to do so this is what I will do.&quot;

That&#039;s not to say the data itself is not valuable, in fact it&#039;s the exact opposite, good unbiased data is immensely valuable.  It&#039;s easy to forget, however, that past data is not necessarily predictive of future events. 

Using data in combination with observation, intuition and anecdotes, will likely lead to better and more informed decisions.

(Don&#039;t forget though - observation and intuition are data too! Just because it isn&#039;t in a chart or table doesn&#039;t mean it isn&#039;t data.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent observations Larry. This isn&#8217;t only a problem in schools, but in business, government and I suspect countless other organizations. Too many times I see professors and business leaders stick their heads in charts and data and in turn say &#8220;this is what the chart says to do so this is what I will do.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say the data itself is not valuable, in fact it&#8217;s the exact opposite, good unbiased data is immensely valuable.  It&#8217;s easy to forget, however, that past data is not necessarily predictive of future events. </p>
<p>Using data in combination with observation, intuition and anecdotes, will likely lead to better and more informed decisions.</p>
<p>(Don&#8217;t forget though &#8211; observation and intuition are data too! Just because it isn&#8217;t in a chart or table doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t data.)</p>
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		<title>By: David B. Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B. Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, 

Your blog provides a wonderful example of the point about proper use of data.  The lower scores by themselves tell you little, but combined with your observations and understanding of what went on in the classroom, you have multiple indicators that seem consistent and you have a plan for improving.  You do us all a service and do credit to the profession by opening your practice to readers in this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, </p>
<p>Your blog provides a wonderful example of the point about proper use of data.  The lower scores by themselves tell you little, but combined with your observations and understanding of what went on in the classroom, you have multiple indicators that seem consistent and you have a plan for improving.  You do us all a service and do credit to the profession by opening your practice to readers in this way.</p>
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